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  1. Caryn LeMur says:

    I think that the ancient writers of the bible tried to capture this sameness in the Garden of Eden story, and again in the Flood Story wherein only 3 sons (and their wives) survived.

    And again, in the Language Story of the Tower of Babylon.

    All humanity traces back to the same Adam and Eve; and again to the same Ham, Shem, and Japheth; and even all languages trace back to one Tower.

    Humanity is far more alike than different.

    We are indeed connected.

  2. Sabio Lantz says:

    I personally don’t buy into your Monism, as you know David. But then Monism is your paradigm which helps you wrap your emotions around your history and conditions.

    I don’t think we are “united at a deep and fundamental level”, any more than squirrels, amoeba and cockroaches are. If we are united to them at a deep and fundamental level, it is one I don’t care about.

    BUT, that said, we all share more than we imagine and our paradigms often unnecessarily divide us.
    The worse dividing paradigms (in terms of pure numbers) are religion, politics, race and sex. I think those are the big ones. But we certainly don’t all share something — humans are far too varied. And then include animals, bugs and plants and it becomes nonsense.

    At work recently, I had people try to talk about “being Christian” as being synonymous with “being a good person”. I said, “religion aside, all of us here know what they did was wrong. No religion needed to see that.” The listeners were puzzled. Why? Because religion talk divides unnecessarily — as your cartoon states.

    I love CS Lewis’ heretical writing on this entitled something like “Good Buddhist, Bad Christian”. Seeing that theology hides our shared endeavours is the main reason I left religion and decided to just start talking simple. I wandered into mystical Oneness theology for a while, and saw that as my last ditch effort to feel holy and connected and …

    We all share much, but not everyone shares the same things. There is not ONE FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL. Exceptions show this time and again.

  3. Sabio Lantz says:

    BTW, David, this VOX article discusses how we use our beliefs to form identity and thus defend facts counter to our beliefs as if they were personal attacks on us. This is why people are resistant to change in religion and politics, for instance. They say the “belief” things, but actually, the beliefs are banners of identity or anchors of identity — truth does not matter as much as strengthening the sense of self and clan. Good read, if you are interested.

  4. Interesting, because I would not consider myself a monist. “We all share much, but not everyone shares the same things.” Agreed.

  5. Sabio Lantz says:

    Your first statement is completely New Age Monism:
    “We are one, united at a deep and fundamental level.”
    Maybe you really don’t mean it the way you wrote it.
    Maybe you simply meant: “We all share so much with each other, it is a shame that ideologies unnecessarily divide us.”
    However, if you read that link to Monism I gave you, you will see that the desire to see all religions as really saying the same thing is nonsense. Just as all politics is really trying to do the same thing, is nonsense. All people really want the same thing, is also nonsense. Don’t you agree? If so, how can we be One? There is many — the multitudes. There are shared things but we all share different things and some share precious little — though I think that is the exception.

  6. I do need to word it better. Yes. I do not wish to discount the diversity.

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