unfit for duty

unfit for duty cartoon by nakedpastor david_hayward

“Unfit for Duty” by David Hayward (ink on paper, 8″x8″)

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21 Responses

  1. Ciera says:

    Yep that’s true. If u don’t for their ideal ur not fit

  2. Sabio Lantz says:

    When I see cartoons like this, I think “Absolutely, dogmatism and exclusivism are bad. I too wish Christian churches could get rid of that.”

    Yet, the New Testament has guidance from Paul and others to reject certain ideas and behaviors and to be dogmatic on certain dogma. The NT church did have a huge element captured by this picture.

    So for David to reform a church, he has to tell them to stop imitating the Bible. Does he want to reform the church or get rid of churches? Reform Christianity or get rid or Christianity?

    Or does he want to create a brand new universalist, non-judgmental religion?

    Personally, I sometimes think that asking the questions, challenging authority and power is enough — then just watch what happens. But other times I think: When a vacuum exists, something always fills it. The question is, who or what fills that vacuum?

  3. Steve Martin says:

    That’s what faith is.

    Questioning. Not knowing. Doubting, sometimes.

    But, trusting, nonetheless. Because where else are we going to go?

  4. Yes. Sad, but so very true.

  5. BW says:

    I have been a part of a church that said it was ok to ‘belong before you believe’ so, therefore, they welcomed doubt. They said, ‘we are a big boy church because we aren’t afraid of questions’. And that was true as long as you didn’t start calling yourself believer. Once you crossed that line from unbelief to belief, your questions and doubts were no longer welcome. ‘Big boy church’….I always laughed at that phrase.

  6. Brigitte says:

    What’s the gospel in twitter-length, David? Anyone.

    How is one then a minister of the gospel?

  7. Sabio Lantz says:

    Well, if “gospel” means “good news”, then the good news is that “gods, spirits, and religions aren’t needed for the good life.”

    To minister this, one could love others as oneself — or at least not harm them.

  8. Brigitte says:

    So, Sabio, it’s the church that has to go then, not the question mark.

    If you have a look at the sermon on the mount, we realize that this loving as oneself is not really happening for us. It’s a good thought and sentiment but who has practiced it. The Buddha, if he lived and it is not all spiritual analogy, left his wife and children to practice spirituality. Is that, for instance, loving as one would like to be loved, etc. — Who are these loving people?

  9. Sabio Lantz says:

    Too many questions for me, Brigitte. Let me just tackle one:

    I lived for more than a decade in countries without churches — religion, yes, but no “churches”. So a place without churches does not seem strange to me at all. To worry about “churches” disappearing, thus seems very parochial to me. But if that is all one has been surrounded by, then I imagine it sounds heartless, cruel and empty — but it ain’t.

  10. Brigitte says:

    The cartoon has a church in it; with a cross on top. This is what we are talking about.

  11. Sabio Lantz says:

    Ouch, snippy, Brigitte.
    You said, “So, Sabio, it’s the church that has to go then, not the question mark.”

    So above, I meant to say, questions are good, but churches inevitably are founded on or generate exclamations. Thus, perhaps it is better to move beyond “churches”. My experiences has shown that “churches” are not necessary for anything that can’t be done in other ways. Churches become institutions which need exclamations to survive — so something less structured may be better.

    Hope that ties it together for you better. Sorry I was unclear.

  12. Barry House says:

    Thought #1 – Good Cartoon. Lots of provoking thought from this. I remember excited preachers, possibly sensing their congregations were beginning to drift or consider drifting back into the addictions and lifestyle that had robbed them of their earlier years and thus they felt a lively performance was warranted. Maybe a chat over tea was all was required. Sounding the horn to the whole congegation to warn one or two can send an ambiguious and confusing message to the congregation as a whole thats doing just fine.

    Thought #2 – The church must always make as part of it’s regular ‘ritual'(for lack of a better word) reflection of where it was at on a individual level before they were changed. They must be soberminded that while many things have been cleaned up by God, they are still works in progress all the while moving forward with what God has mapped out for them. This cartoon in that respect is a very sad and often accurate picture of the church who has moments of “Oops, what on earth were we thinking when we said/did that.” Forgetting where it came from and probably in denial that the individual at whom they are pointing is possibly in far better spiritual state than they were at that point in their lives.

    “Oh to be His hand extented”

  13. Wes M says:

    Excellent! This is why my two teenage sons left the church (and belief in God): their honest questions (esp. regarding Old Testament problems) prompted the youth group leaders to accuse them of having “bad attitudes”. Eventually my wife and I left “the faith” as well. Why were they so scared of questions? I assumed they must have something to hide!

  14. BW says:

    Wes M, that’s one of my big reasons for leaving as well.

  15. Caryn LeMur says:

    Wes M: so glad to hear that your teen sons had the courage to ask honest questions – that alone is very impressive! The making of teen sons into brave young men is a stunning thing to watch – they could have been followers transforming into spiritual leaders.

    I am sorry that the youth leaders dodged the questions and/or accused them of ‘bad attitudes’. I find no place where Jesus dodged a question or accused a honest questioner of ‘bad attitude’.

    Further, I find the Greek word ‘pistis’, which we translate as ‘faith’. In the Gospels, and in the early chapters of Acts, the word means the faith of the person on the playing field, in the game, pushing towards the goal, and engaging. It is not the faith of the spectator.

    Please tell your sons that I am proud of them for daring to have ‘pistis’. In my opinion, those who wrestle with faith, often became the deepest believers.

    Much love in Christ always and unconditionally; Caryn

  16. Sabio Lantz says:

    The gospel writers didn’t put tough questions in front of the Jesus in there stories. No reason for him to evade them. Just as Plato made sure Socrates deftly handled all his questions.

  17. Gary says:

    I like the drawing David. And if we have to choose between the questions and the church…I am taking the questions every time.

  18. Caryn LeMur says:

    Ah, Sabio… you are right. The questions Jesus handled are not hard. Gosh, anyone can ask them:

    ‘What must I do to inherit eternal life?’
    ‘What are the greatest commandments from God?’
    ‘Who can forgive sins….?’

    Yep. Easy questions to ask…. and I applaud those people that ask such questions.

    The challenge is in the answer.

    Much love in Christ always and uncondtionally; Caryn

  19. Sabio Lantz says:

    @ Caryn LeMur,
    Sorry, took a while to get back.
    The Gospel writers scripted all those gospel stories.
    Jesus never was asked:
    “Why does so much terrible things happen if God loves us?”

    or

    “Why did you wait so long to come.”

    He didn’t answer any hard ones.
    The eternal life ones are all easy ones — you give an answer that people want to hear: “All ya gotta do is believe.”
    The gospel writers were clever.

  20. Caryn LeMur says:

    hmmmm… well, Sabio. Let us play out this discussion. You have me curious.

    Let’s you and I answer the questions. We can skip the argumentation for/against a scripted book… or return to it at a future time. The only rule of this approach is that we each have to be honest.

    Question 1: What must each of us do in order to have eternal life, as opposed to eternal non-life?

    My answer: At a very gut level, I agreed with God’s assessment of me, asked His forgiveness, and asked Him to put my name in the Book of Life. In my current thinking, I have also come to believe that all humans are eternal, and that upon death, we are cognitively with Jesus or cognitively in another, much harsher, place. I do not hold to any form of reincarnation.

    Your honest answer to #1?

    And then, you may propose a Question #2, answer it, and I will be happy to reply.

    Much love in Christ always and unconditionally; Caryn

  21. Sabio Lantz says:

    Hey Caryn,

    Humans have the fate of all other animals and plants, all living things. There is not life after death.

    If squirrels could think, I am sure they’d think they were eternal too.

    So you can see, we are probably worlds apart in our thinking. However, I use to be a strong believing Christian too. You can visit my site if you want to know more. But I said the essentials above.

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