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  1. lol!…yep…pehaps some bite marks on the pastor would be appropriate…

  2. BrianM says:

    Most disturbing of all is that I’ve heard some sheep say the second when I wanted to hear the first.

  3. Ramblin' Dan says:

    Our need to be heard is so great we often fail to listen to other voices desperate to be heard.

  4. Randy says:

    As a former Christian, I find the idea of one man standing before a congregation several times a week, explaining his beliefs (understanding of the bible?) to be very unhealthy to all involved. Most ministers do not want their beliefs questioned, and most believers do not want to question him. There are no checks and balances in place. So, we end up with Benny Hinns, Jerry Falwell’s, Pat Robertson’s, etc. Dictatorships? Family businesses? Notice how some of these large religious organizations get handed down to the children? Falwell, Osteen, Hagie, Graham, Robertson, Swaggart, all have groomed their sons to take over, keeping the riches firmly in place.
    Sorry, just ranting.

  5. Polly says:

    Can I just say that I find the idea of Dr. Phil to be extremely unhealthy.

    There, I said it. And I feel so much better!

    (If your not an American TV addict, then this won’t really mean anything.)
    I realize he’s not a religious leader. Nevertheless, there are a lot of parallels. He assumes an air of authority derived from some perceived wisdom when in fact he’s way out of his depth. He may have some credentials, (although, these days, I could get my dog a diploma) but I doubt he’s done any serious off-air clinical work to have earned his large following.
    He basically tells people a bunch of trite “home truths.” Nothing, anyone with a shred of common sense couldn’t have said without schlepping their GI-Normous ego into the situation. Everything about his show is designed to inflate the awesomeness of his presence. Same goes DOUBLE for his Dr. Frankenstein, Oprah. Every time I watch these shows I feel a little ill. I should explain that on rare occassions my wife is interested in the topic so we watch it.
    I’m starting to get that same feeling at church – whenever I actually show up. The feeling is less pronounced because I think the preacher probably has much less of an ego and isn’t looking for national celebrity status, though he may have it on a much smaller scale.
    I keep asking myself, why is he up there and we’re all down here? No offense, Naked Pastor! πŸ™

  6. Fred says:

    Would that “some” be a high percentage or a low percentage?

  7. Heidi says:

    Randy I understand your rant, and the kind of churches you are talking about certainly are very unhealthy. I’m compelled to say that not all churches are like this and with our very own David (a.k.a. nakedpastor), interjections, comments, and questions are welcome right in the middle of the service. There are actually many churches trying reshape the way a church community functions, but it will take a lot of re-educating and a lot of conversing… we do here.

    Sorry, I just had to pipe in and say “not every church is like that!” πŸ™‚

  8. John says:

    I agree heidi….not all churches are!

  9. John says:

    I agree heidi….not all churches are!

  10. Randy says:

    Heidi, that is the exact impression I get from my visits here, that David is not your typical denominational representative. 99.999% of my rantings are in no way directed at him. He appears to be just as confused as the rest of us…and I see that as a good thing.

  11. Heidi says:

    Ya, we need more pastors/churches that rebel against the status quo, that’s for sure.

  12. heliobates says:

    I realize heÒ€ℒs not a religious leader. Nevertheless, there are a lot of parallels.

    Great minds, etc., etc.

  13. Barry Pike says:

    I have some excellent recipes for lamb, btw. Just sayin’.

  14. John says:

    I still think some of you would benefit from therapy!

  15. Polly says:

    @Heliobates: OMG! That was a virtual paraphrase of what I was saying…or vice-versa! It stopped short of passing judgment, which is fine, though I do sense something downright sinister in his whole dog and pony show. Amazing.

    Thanks for the link! (I feel empowered and validated πŸ™‚ )