There is nothing sadder or more frightening than a pastor/church/denomination living the idolatry of the left image while ignoring or opposing the truth of the right image.
Denise thinks this is your best work. Kudos. Love it.
bob
June 16, 2010 | 6:19 am
dcsloan – “God has never been, at any time for any reason, a capricious God of death, war, destruction, murder, violence, retribution, vengeance, or hate.”
“God has always been a consistent God of life, peace, creation, healing, reconciliation, resurrection, transformation, grace, mercy, and love.”
?
dcsloan
June 16, 2010 | 10:55 am
Bob,
The collected stories of faith that we call The Bible reveals how, over many centuries, people matured and grew in their understanding of God. God never changed. Our understanding of and relationship with God did change – and God was always calling us forward to a better, wiser, more loving understanding and relationship.
bob
June 16, 2010 | 11:51 am
I guess I don’t understand. Are you saying all the people who were killed by God (and / or His followers at His command) in the Old Testament were just part of a grand lesson to bring YOU, dcsloan, closer to God some 4,000 years later?
I mean, do you really see absolutely no difference (“God never changed”) between the God of Deuteronomy and the God of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John?
“…and God was always calling us forward to a better, wiser, more loving understanding and relationship.”
This is all fine and good, but it seems to do little for those lived and died during the time of the Old Testament God…I mean, if any of those stories are even remotely true.
““God has always been a consistent God of life, peace, creation, healing, reconciliation, resurrection, transformation, grace, mercy, and love.”
This just seems to be a god of your own making, which is OK by me, but it just doesn’t match up with the biblical God.
dcsloan
June 16, 2010 | 1:34 pm
Bob,
It matches up with a God who is consistent.
It does not match up with an inconsistent, even capricious, God – which is how God was viewed in the Old Testament. The stories are true, just not necessarily factually accurate. God is a God of grace – the BC people are just fine with God.
bob
June 16, 2010 | 2:08 pm
OK. Thanks for clearing it all up for me…and them.
Just read this quote in the late Michael Spencer’s book “Mere Churchianity” – “…leaving the god who sponsored the religious agenda was, for many people, the only way to hold on to an authentic idea of God. Leaving the Jesus who was said to be in the building was the only way to believe in a Jesus who wasn’t confined to a building.”
hmm, perhaps both/and?
Beautiful. Absolutely love this one.
There is nothing sadder or more frightening than a pastor/church/denomination living the idolatry of the left image while ignoring or opposing the truth of the right image.
I’m with Kim. ‘both/and’
love the way you look at life.
Best one EVER!! Can I use it?
Man David, this one is a classic!!!
Outstanding! It’s amazing how much one simple picture can covey!
…what is being done to change it
So simple yet so deep. No need for words on this one.
Good.
anyone can share it online. sure. just link to nakedpastor.
Love how squished the first GOD is, and how majestic the second one is…another great one, David
So true, about church and it’s systemic way of bargaining a view of God that can be limited and controlled for the sake of ‘humanity’.
I like it, np.
As I have said before…
God has never been, at any time for any reason, a capricious God of death, war, destruction, murder, violence, retribution, vengeance, or hate.
God has always been a consistent God of life, peace, creation, healing, reconciliation, resurrection, transformation, grace, mercy, and love.
…and this NP cartoon says it better, more pointedly, and much more concisely.
Brilliant David.
I just wonder if the little church is there at all?
One to ponder over!
love this
Hey David
Denise thinks this is your best work. Kudos. Love it.
dcsloan – “God has never been, at any time for any reason, a capricious God of death, war, destruction, murder, violence, retribution, vengeance, or hate.”
“God has always been a consistent God of life, peace, creation, healing, reconciliation, resurrection, transformation, grace, mercy, and love.”
?
Bob,
The collected stories of faith that we call The Bible reveals how, over many centuries, people matured and grew in their understanding of God. God never changed. Our understanding of and relationship with God did change – and God was always calling us forward to a better, wiser, more loving understanding and relationship.
I guess I don’t understand. Are you saying all the people who were killed by God (and / or His followers at His command) in the Old Testament were just part of a grand lesson to bring YOU, dcsloan, closer to God some 4,000 years later?
I mean, do you really see absolutely no difference (“God never changed”) between the God of Deuteronomy and the God of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John?
“…and God was always calling us forward to a better, wiser, more loving understanding and relationship.”
This is all fine and good, but it seems to do little for those lived and died during the time of the Old Testament God…I mean, if any of those stories are even remotely true.
““God has always been a consistent God of life, peace, creation, healing, reconciliation, resurrection, transformation, grace, mercy, and love.”
This just seems to be a god of your own making, which is OK by me, but it just doesn’t match up with the biblical God.
Bob,
It matches up with a God who is consistent.
It does not match up with an inconsistent, even capricious, God – which is how God was viewed in the Old Testament. The stories are true, just not necessarily factually accurate. God is a God of grace – the BC people are just fine with God.
OK. Thanks for clearing it all up for me…and them.
So simple, yet so powerful. A picture really does speak a thousand words.
I simply reshared this on all the networks I know
Just read this quote in the late Michael Spencer’s book “Mere Churchianity” – “…leaving the god who sponsored the religious agenda was, for many people, the only way to hold on to an authentic idea of God. Leaving the Jesus who was said to be in the building was the only way to believe in a Jesus who wasn’t confined to a building.”
Amen
love this!