Well done!! That’s a pretty diplomatic cartoon in terms of spiritual abuse.
When we decide to grow up it’s a lot easier to resist that kind of controlling situation, isn’t it? Nobody owns the exclusive right to communicate with God and to use this idea as a justification to run anybody else’s life. Each one of us has the capacity to listen for ourselves.
I’m a grown woman. Gone are the days when I’ll let anybody dictate to me like a child or worse, a dense, helpless sheep. It’s insulting. And we all deserve better than that.
Susan
January 20, 2010 | 11:05 am
I’ve been there. You’re right, Lori, it’s like being treated like a child. Then, they are surprised at the lack of spiritual maturity among the church members.
The worst of it is that it’s an affront to the Holy Spirit. They are saying, essentially, “I can’t trust the Holy Spirit to lead, guide, teach, and convict. I have to give Him/Her a helping hand and put some pressure on these people so they will do the right thing.”
Ann Yoder
January 20, 2010 | 11:07 am
Go Lori! Go David! David I think I owe you lots of beers at this point …
How many pastors can be trusted to be mature people? You know, not feel threatened, not get defensive, but instead listen respectfully and truly consider what the person is saying to them.
And even if they are mature as a person, they still may have the fundamentalist mindset-where they are on God’s side, so if you’re criticizing them, you are on the OTHER side.
So, there are two factors-is the pastor mature and does he see all people as being in two groups-saved and unsaved.
Excellent, very funny
I’ve been dropped through a few holes in the floor myself, though for my own journey I’m having to learn to forgive and move on…and still show love to those who judge, and condemn, but that’s the journey huh!
Boz
January 21, 2010 | 6:22 am
Montgomery Burns!
Baruch60610
January 21, 2010 | 5:51 pm
Hmm… Where can you get one of those holes, I wonder?
fishon
January 21, 2010 | 6:56 pm
Jason said, on January 21st, 2010 at 5:28 am
Excellent, very funny
I’ve been dropped through a few holes in the floor myself, though for my own journey I’m having to learn to forgive and move on…and still show love to those who judge, and condemn, but that’s the journey huh!
————-Great response, Jason.
To bad the focus lesson that could be taught in the cartoon is what you said.
But the focus is the hole–as the title suggest.
fishon
Duuude I didn’t know you saw what my church did to me!!! lol
(Over a different issue tho)
<3
Well done!! That’s a pretty diplomatic cartoon in terms of spiritual abuse.
When we decide to grow up it’s a lot easier to resist that kind of controlling situation, isn’t it? Nobody owns the exclusive right to communicate with God and to use this idea as a justification to run anybody else’s life. Each one of us has the capacity to listen for ourselves.
I’m a grown woman. Gone are the days when I’ll let anybody dictate to me like a child or worse, a dense, helpless sheep. It’s insulting. And we all deserve better than that.
I’ve been there. You’re right, Lori, it’s like being treated like a child. Then, they are surprised at the lack of spiritual maturity among the church members.
The worst of it is that it’s an affront to the Holy Spirit. They are saying, essentially, “I can’t trust the Holy Spirit to lead, guide, teach, and convict. I have to give Him/Her a helping hand and put some pressure on these people so they will do the right thing.”
Go Lori! Go David! David I think I owe you lots of beers at this point …
So true!
Our critics can teach us things sometimes.
How many pastors can be trusted to be mature people? You know, not feel threatened, not get defensive, but instead listen respectfully and truly consider what the person is saying to them.
And even if they are mature as a person, they still may have the fundamentalist mindset-where they are on God’s side, so if you’re criticizing them, you are on the OTHER side.
So, there are two factors-is the pastor mature and does he see all people as being in two groups-saved and unsaved.
Excellent, very funny
I’ve been dropped through a few holes in the floor myself, though for my own journey I’m having to learn to forgive and move on…and still show love to those who judge, and condemn, but that’s the journey huh!
Montgomery Burns!
Hmm… Where can you get one of those holes, I wonder?
Jason said, on January 21st, 2010 at 5:28 am
Excellent, very funny
I’ve been dropped through a few holes in the floor myself, though for my own journey I’m having to learn to forgive and move on…and still show love to those who judge, and condemn, but that’s the journey huh!
————-Great response, Jason.
To bad the focus lesson that could be taught in the cartoon is what you said.
But the focus is the hole–as the title suggest.
fishon
I wish I had one of those at my work… although I think I’d rather it be under my own chair than under the other person.
Just to follow the tug on the line given by fishon,
here’s an offering for a different title:
Hole in the Faith?