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cartoon: how to stop harassment at work

Posted in humour by nakedpastor on the November 24th, 2009

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  1. Béranger said, on November 24th, 2009 at 10:55 am

    Gee, why do you host a right-side advertisement to… “graduate degrees in Counseling Psychology, Divinity, and Christian Studies”???

  2. nakedpastor said, on November 24th, 2009 at 10:58 am

    béranger: why not?

  3. ttm said, on November 24th, 2009 at 11:15 am

    Perhaps if Ms. “Just-A-Secretary” wore shapeless, floorlength, denim dresses appliqued with fluffy bunnies and happy faces to work, she might have kept her job. Of course, closed-toe shoes, shirts with sleeves, turtlenecks, and no makeup or beguiling jewelry would also be part of the uniform.

    For those that cannot distinguish in this venue, I am being completely sarcastic… Unfortunately, this type of “solution” to the problem of sexual harassment goes back to the archaic idea that women must be responsible for mens’ reactions to their beauty, their bodies, and their personality.

    Most women are not provacative sluts. Most men are not animalistic sex fiends. Too bad some Christian organizations haven’t noticed that yet…

  4. karenp said, on November 24th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    hahahahaha. funnnnnnnny!!!

  5. Tiggy said, on November 24th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    I would love to do that course in Counselling Psychology at Mars Hill.

    I’ve been repeatedly seen as some sort of femme fatale in churches (and other Christian contexts) since I was about 17. Wish I was seen that way in the real world!

  6. Titfortat said, on November 24th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Most women are not provacative sluts. Most men are not animalistic sex fiends.(ttm)

    Interestingly enough, most women will beautify their looks and most men will notice. ;)

  7. Tiggy said, on November 24th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    But most women are not trying to provoke most men into being animalistic sex fiends. Most women will beautify their looks if t hey’re just meeting a female friend. Wanting to look nice doesn’t mean you are asking someone for sexual attention.

  8. Lynn said, on November 24th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    This reminds me of the priests molesting children. The response of the church was “protect the institution.”

  9. Tiggy said, on November 24th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    That just shows you their mentality – bunch of arse-lickers huddling together in their ‘gentlemans’ club.

  10. Lynn said, on November 24th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    This could also be like when someone criticizes the church in some way. The church staff could think-”the problem is that person.” The critic is saying “there’s something wrong with this church.”

    Or the Bible: A friend said he doesn’t understand everything in the Bible, but blames it on his limited ability to understand God. I, on the other hand, decided that people don’t understand the Bible because it’s a confusing, contradictory book.

    So I see that the employer wants to protect the company-get rid of the troublemaker.
    The Christian wants to protect the Bible, so the critic has let the devil get ahold of them.
    The church wants to do what it wants to do, so the troublemaker needs to move on.

  11. Laura said, on November 24th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    hahahahahahahahaaaaaaa!
    sadly true….but funny

  12. fishon said, on November 24th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    nakedpastor said, on November 24th, 2009 at 10:58 am
    béranger: why not?
    ———–Ah, so that particular school DOES NOT turn out anyone like you rail against.
    Of course if they did, and you advertize for them, that makes you a….”
    fishon

  13. Tiggy said, on November 24th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    On the attack again. Sigh.

  14. fishon said, on November 24th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    No tiggy, you miss the point–but I am guessing he didn’t.
    fishon
    Yea, the NP never attacks.

  15. Societyvs said, on November 24th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    “But most women are not trying to provoke most men into being animalistic sex fiends” (Tiggy)

    True – I blame the over-sexualized culture we live in which is a direct by-product of the growth of the medium of advertising and the sexual revolution.

  16. Andy R. Bunch said, on November 24th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    In any system based on Shame, its not my fault for having a problem its your fault for noticing. Whether its the church or the workplace, its a clear sign of shame-based system when the victim is blamed.

    It’s also a clear indication of demonic agreements. He is the great accuser.

    I’d like to think that if Christ were here he’d say, “Congratulations, we now have the opportunity to adjust Jim’s broken idea about sexuality.” Oh wait…Christ is here…”If we are the body…”

    Grace-based systems are hard work. They require a radical openness…dare I call it, “a nakedness.”

  17. Tiggy said, on November 24th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    I’m not interested in what your point is, Mr. Fishon, but the way in which you made it. And you should attend to your own behaviour, not that of other people. As it is, you’re like a kid in the playground saying, ‘He started it!’

    So if a man behaves like an ‘animalistic fiend’, t hen it’s either women or the culture that are at fault?

  18. fishon said, on November 24th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Tiggy said, on November 24th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
    I’m not interested in what your point is, Mr. Fishon, but the way in which you made it. And you should attend to your own behaviour, not that of other people.
    ————Tiggy, take your own advice:: “attend to your own behaviour, not that of other people.” What are you, the behaviour police?

    YOU:As it is, you’re like a kid in the playground saying, ‘He started it!’
    ————Why tiggy, I am surprised you miss it—–Are you telling me his cartoons and thoughts ARE NOT INTENDED to start something??

    YOU:So if a man behaves like an ‘animalistic fiend’, t hen it’s either women or the culture that are at fault?
    ————I hope you weren’t addressing this to me? If so, why?
    fishon

  19. Tiggy said, on November 24th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Yes, tonight I am the behaviour police for I am in teacher mode! Furthermore, I am on to my second gin and tonic. Anyway, your’e a minister, so BEhave!

    His cartoons are not attacking you personally.

    No, it wasn’t addressed to you, but to Societyvs. I should have said that.

  20. fishon said, on November 24th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    ok, ok, ms. tiggy, I’ll BEhave for now.
    Off to do some pre-marriage counseling.
    And my first bit of advice will be the the man, “Love your wife as Christ loves the Church.”

    later tiggy,
    mr. fishon

  21. Tiggy said, on November 24th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Not, ‘Find where her G-spot is’???

  22. Fred said, on November 25th, 2009 at 12:05 am

    It’s “inappropriately” not “innappropriately.” You’d think the secretary would be able to say that right.

    Doesn’t everyone just love the anal grammarian? ; )

  23. Lynn said, on November 25th, 2009 at 6:18 am

    Don’t get me started on marital advice! Trying to mesh ideas from the Bible with my marriage didn’t work well. Stumbling across Dr. Phil’s relationship book where he talked about your attitude toward your partner was actually very helpful. That opened my eyes somewhat.

    But “loving your wife as Christ loved the church” and “submisson” created alot of CONFUSION and disappointment. Try fitting all those lofty-sounding ideas with two very sensitive people, and you’ve got a bigger mess than what you would’ve had without trying to be spiritual about it all.

    I think success in marriage requires maturity, not spirituality.

  24. Tiggy said, on November 25th, 2009 at 10:25 am

    Wow, I’ll have to start proofreading David’s cartoons.

    Fred, I don’t think you realise what a sexy phrase ‘anal grammarian’ is for a proofreader.

    Yeah the Christ/Husband, Wife/Church analogy doesn’t really work very well. Doesn’t the Bible also say we’re saved through our husbands? Let’s try, ‘Wives love your husbands as Christ loves his church’ and see how it feels. Does that turn you on, guys? Maybe some of you would enjoy being submissive.

  25. Lynn said, on November 25th, 2009 at 10:28 am

    I’m sorry, I’m on a roll again. I must say more: Take two very sensitive, codependent people. Give the wife spiritual ideals in her head about what a Christian family is supposed to be like…disaster! The only reason we survived all that-although it did much harm-was I went to counseling for 2-3 years and read a million self-help books. Religion contributed nothing but harm to the situation.

    Thanks for listening. I have very strong feelings on this subject. There’s even a related website now-No Longer Quivering. It gives you insight into the mindset women can have about all this.

  26. Tiggy said, on November 25th, 2009 at 10:39 am

    Hee Hee, that word just makes me think of ‘quivering with desire’. Did they mean quivering with fear? Sorry, the lady who runs the discipleship group at my church has given me a book to proofread that she’s written and it’s full of people ‘quivering with desire’. It’s very raunchy – I can only read it in small doses or I get hysterical.

  27. Lynn said, on November 25th, 2009 at 10:51 am

    LOL-Yeah, quivering is a hilarious word, actually! The “No Longer Quivering” site is about leaving the patriarchy movement. It’s about submission to the husband of the wife and children to a ridiculous extent, homeschooling, home churches, etc. Just another lovely idea people get from the Bible.

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