Comments on: cartoon: a treadmill is a treadmill http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/4152 David Hayward is a pastor artistically stripping to the essential. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:02:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: nonfictions http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/4152/comment-page-2#comment-127209 nonfictions Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:44:48 +0000 http://www.nakedpastor.com/?p=4152#comment-127209 Is that a treadmill or a fan? (Or a hamster's wheel?) Is that a treadmill or a fan? (Or a hamster’s wheel?)

]]> By: Societyvs http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/4152/comment-page-2#comment-125597 Societyvs Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:13:50 +0000 http://www.nakedpastor.com/?p=4152#comment-125597 Fishon - it's irony (lol) Fishon – it’s irony (lol)

]]> By: fishon http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/4152/comment-page-1#comment-125560 fishon Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:50:21 +0000 http://www.nakedpastor.com/?p=4152#comment-125560 societyvs, Just wrote a reply to you, and probably the first one that had no debate, but total agreement--and I hit a wrong key, wouldn't you know it. I will make an attempt to reply, but no promise. fishon societyvs,
Just wrote a reply to you, and probably the first one that had no debate, but total agreement–and I hit a wrong key, wouldn’t you know it. I will make an attempt to reply, but no promise.
fishon

]]> By: Societyvs http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/4152/comment-page-1#comment-125495 Societyvs Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:57:30 +0000 http://www.nakedpastor.com/?p=4152#comment-125495 "fishon: come on man!! you’re smarter than that. you’re encouraging people who’ve been abused to suck it up, get used to their abuser, forgive them, and move on… only to suffer abuse all over again. the church, need you be reminded?, is rampant with abuse. how do people who’ve suffered at the hands of the church “move on” within the church? answer that" (NP) I think fishon's response to me was candid and made sense (weird huh). I think he is seeking the reconciliation of the church with it's wounded - whom the church may have wounded...nonetheless forgiveness is the neccesary route to go (hate will get us nowhere). I also think change needs to occur so these types of things do not happen to people in churches - that leadership is accountable to it's people whom it is charged with...at least this is a step I would like to see (more democratic steps). I know a lot of people that have been wounded by their experience in church - including myself to a minor degree - and none of us attend church - yet all still have some aspect of faith in God (just don't know how to direct that). I write a blog...others banter about in casual conversations still. I saw there was a need for a church reconciliation process years ago (maybe 4 or 5 years ago) and that leadership needed to start a process where this could be possible. I mean it in this sense, even when the person in the parable lost 1 sheep of his 100 - he spent the time to find that sheep. I cannot say the same for most church leadership I have met. “fishon: come on man!! you’re smarter than that. you’re encouraging people who’ve been abused to suck it up, get used to their abuser, forgive them, and move on… only to suffer abuse all over again. the church, need you be reminded?, is rampant with abuse. how do people who’ve suffered at the hands of the church “move on” within the church? answer that” (NP)

I think fishon’s response to me was candid and made sense (weird huh).

I think he is seeking the reconciliation of the church with it’s wounded – whom the church may have wounded…nonetheless forgiveness is the neccesary route to go (hate will get us nowhere). I also think change needs to occur so these types of things do not happen to people in churches – that leadership is accountable to it’s people whom it is charged with…at least this is a step I would like to see (more democratic steps).

I know a lot of people that have been wounded by their experience in church – including myself to a minor degree – and none of us attend church – yet all still have some aspect of faith in God (just don’t know how to direct that). I write a blog…others banter about in casual conversations still. I saw there was a need for a church reconciliation process years ago (maybe 4 or 5 years ago) and that leadership needed to start a process where this could be possible.

I mean it in this sense, even when the person in the parable lost 1 sheep of his 100 – he spent the time to find that sheep. I cannot say the same for most church leadership I have met.

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