‘Many people here are lukewarm about Him ‘

That’s something you know, is it?
I’m passionate about Jesus and the things he said and the way he was with people. That’s why I don’t like to see people in churches preaching the opposite.

‘sucking up to people and religions’

How childish a statement is that? Straight out of the playground.

Yeah, I dunno… I’d consider myself rather passionate about Jesus… the real Jesus, that is. Y’know, the guy who hung out with all the outcasts and whatnot. That guy, remember him? Maybe not… maybe you’re too busy digging out the specks in our eyes…

So, its just Steve and Jesus against the rest of us…well. what I see here is a lot of people passionate about their quest for truth. Jesus said to “seek first the kingdom of God” and everything else would fall into place. He didn’t say seek it to Steve’s satisfaction. He extended Grace to all who make their search their first priority. This is a group of seekers who are doing their own questioning, not a group of people who have memorized theology out of a book. There is evidence of some real soul searching here, and Steve, even if its not your intent, you are turning people off. They don’t want to know the Jesus you claim to know. Again, even if it isn’t your intent, you come across as arrogant, condemning, condescending, and smug…as if you and you alone have a handle on the truth, and if not you alone, certainly your particular synod of the Lutheran church. No one else here claims to have the “one true way”…even fishon, who everyone is calling a bully, is acting out of passion for the God who saved him, and he’ll argue theology, but will concede when he,s wrong. Jesus doesn’t need you to defend Him…you need Him to defend you. The last time I looked, the Holy Spirit wasn’t on vacation. Maybe you need to look at what your job is and what God’s job is. He’ll reveal Himself to those who seek Him. Do you really think you are acting Christlike in here?

Wow, what a horrendous document. It could almost be taken for a spoof. On the whole though I find Catholics to be less inclined than Protestants to want to attack ‘heretics’. I mean these days. We also have the example of the witchcraft craze which here was not under Catholic scrutiny, but that of King James I.

I couldn’t either! It was unbelievable. He’s probably one of those people who flogs themselves.

He is Society of Saint Pius X, the group whose bishops had their excommunications lifted earlier this year by the Pope. I’m not saying he speaks for the society though that document is from their website.

I tried to find a similar document from (not about) a Protestant group specifically on heresy or apostasy but didn’t have much luck on a cursory look.

This is TEH awesome! And isn’t it great that you have a commentor who so aptly illustrates the point you are trying to make, in real life Christianity! Wow! Who would have thought?

God forbid you were to look for the beauty in another religion/culture – it must mean you are abandoning your own! Ugh.

Also, seeing the beauty in your own should not preclude you from working on those aspects that are more human and far less divine.

Just my two cents.

Dear David~
I am a happy and blessed 45-year-old mother of six and wife of an amazing man. I was raised Catholic and about the time my husband and I started having kids, I started having more and more religious/spiritual questions.
When the Catholic church couldn’t (or wouldn’t) give me reasonable answers, my curiosity became even greater and now I have even MORE questions.

Your cartoon describes very well what I feel is occuring in my life. The more questions I ask, the more ostracized I feel by some Christians. I completely respect the fact that Christianity works for them but when I say that it does not work for me, I get ‘stones’ thrown at me.

Thanks for your cartoon — I posted it to my FB page.

p.s. I’ve learned not to engage with people like Steve M. here.
There’s a saying: “It’s like trying to teach the pig to sing… it just wastes your time and annoys the pig.”

Eileen~ I would love to become your friend. Are you on facebook?

I love that picture, that is me – I had to go find the truth for myself too, and I also have been crucify for leaving the man-made church also!