Comments on: cartoon: pastor’s apprentice & spiritual porn http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/2197 David Hayward is a pastor artistically stripping to the essential. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:01:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: windhauch · Frost / Hirsch: Die Zukunft gestalten http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/2197/comment-page-1#comment-74149 windhauch · Frost / Hirsch: Die Zukunft gestalten Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:11:32 +0000 http://nakedpastor.com/archives/2197#comment-74149 [...] Also ehrlich gesagt: Dieses Buch frustriert mich! Es weckt bei mir keine Begeisterung, Neues zu wagen, sondern eher Frust über die scheinbare Ausweglosigkeit traditioneller Gemeinden. Mir ging es beim Lesen so wie es David Hayward in einem Cartoon auf den Punkt bringt: “Sure, you can read church growth and success books. But read them like you read porn: it looks amazing, you’ll get excited, but it’s something you’ll never get your hands on.” [...] [...] Also ehrlich gesagt: Dieses Buch frustriert mich! Es weckt bei mir keine Begeisterung, Neues zu wagen, sondern eher Frust über die scheinbare Ausweglosigkeit traditioneller Gemeinden. Mir ging es beim Lesen so wie es David Hayward in einem Cartoon auf den Punkt bringt: “Sure, you can read church growth and success books. But read them like you read porn: it looks amazing, you’ll get excited, but it’s something you’ll never get your hands on.” [...]

]]> By: Frost / Hirsch: Die Zukunft gestalten « windhauch http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/2197/comment-page-1#comment-73047 Frost / Hirsch: Die Zukunft gestalten « windhauch Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:25:32 +0000 http://nakedpastor.com/archives/2197#comment-73047 [...] Verfasst von windhauch am 13.08.2008 Also ehrlich gesagt: Dieses Buch frustriert mich! Es weckt bei mir keine Begeisterung, Neues zu wagen, sondern eher Frust über die scheinbare Ausweglosigkeit traditioneller Gemeinden. Mir ging es beim Lesen so wie es David Hayward in einem Cartoon auf den Punkt bringt: “Sure, you can read church growth and success books. But read them like you read porn: it looks amazing, you’ll get excited, but it’s something you’ll never get your hands on.” [...] [...] Verfasst von windhauch am 13.08.2008 Also ehrlich gesagt: Dieses Buch frustriert mich! Es weckt bei mir keine Begeisterung, Neues zu wagen, sondern eher Frust über die scheinbare Ausweglosigkeit traditioneller Gemeinden. Mir ging es beim Lesen so wie es David Hayward in einem Cartoon auf den Punkt bringt: “Sure, you can read church growth and success books. But read them like you read porn: it looks amazing, you’ll get excited, but it’s something you’ll never get your hands on.” [...]

]]> By: Mark http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/2197/comment-page-1#comment-49382 Mark Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:53:15 +0000 http://nakedpastor.com/archives/2197#comment-49382 This is great - really made me laugh and so true! This is great – really made me laugh and so true!

]]> By: Cameron http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/2197/comment-page-1#comment-49379 Cameron Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:53:31 +0000 http://nakedpastor.com/archives/2197#comment-49379 This is so very true. I was at a church growth, oops, sorry, church health conference last week. I got so used to hearing about churches that have attendances in their thousands that I actually started to look down at attendees when they told me about the church of 200 they pastor. I had to take a big reality check when I returned home to my church of 30. Like David said a few weeks ago, we're called to serve people, not a vision. This is so very true. I was at a church growth, oops, sorry, church health conference last week. I got so used to hearing about churches that have attendances in their thousands that I actually started to look down at attendees when they told me about the church of 200 they pastor.

I had to take a big reality check when I returned home to my church of 30.

Like David said a few weeks ago, we’re called to serve people, not a vision.

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