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		<title>By: fishon</title>
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		<dc:creator>fishon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thebutler,
Don&#039;t know if you will come back to this thread or not, but if you do, question.
I take it by your last sentence, you are &#039;non judgmental?&#039;

Yes--No? 

Of course, we haven&#039;t yet agreed as to the biblical definition of &#039;judgemental.&#039;
And of course, if you choose to answer, no matter your answer, that could lead us down a long path.
fishon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thebutler,<br />
Don&#8217;t know if you will come back to this thread or not, but if you do, question.<br />
I take it by your last sentence, you are &#8216;non judgmental?&#8217;</p>
<p>Yes&#8211;No? </p>
<p>Of course, we haven&#8217;t yet agreed as to the biblical definition of &#8216;judgemental.&#8217;<br />
And of course, if you choose to answer, no matter your answer, that could lead us down a long path.<br />
fishon</p>
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		<title>By: thebutler</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/1908/comment-page-2#comment-37551</link>
		<dc:creator>thebutler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all deserve to be thrown out because of the law and the fact that God being good means He can&#039;t let any corruption through. 
ALL OF US!

Reason enough to stop being all high and mighty and start being non judgmental to other sinners, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all deserve to be thrown out because of the law and the fact that God being good means He can&#8217;t let any corruption through.<br />
ALL OF US!</p>
<p>Reason enough to stop being all high and mighty and start being non judgmental to other sinners, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: fishon</title>
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		<dc:creator>fishon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mimo,
A couple of things.
#1. Just where did I say who goes to heaven and who not???? Please show me that? 

#2. You wrote: I donâ€™t need to compromise, but donâ€™t need to fix people either! Unless they ASK for my opinion, help or advice.
--------Did you not really read what I wrote? &quot;We sat down and immediately he went into how he was an alcoholic.&quot; Do I have to spell it out? 

Mimo, you have done what many here do. You don&#039;t like what you read, so you make assumptions and read into what is written [Oops, myself included].

So, I ask again, where do I say who goes to heaven and who not?
And since it wasn&#039;t apparent to you by what I wrote about the young man and me sitting down to talk, he wanted my opinion and advice. 

I love Casting Crowns. Great concert. &quot;Does anybody hear her.&quot; Great song. Just a minute, I am going back and listen to it. Yep, just what I remember. No one helped her see the &quot;Ways of God.&quot; Two parts to that song. 
#1.
 Does anybody hear her? Can anybody see?
Or does anybody even knows she&#039;s going down today
Under the shadow of our steeple
With all the lost and lonely people
Searching for the hope that&#039;s tucked away in you and me
Does anybody hear her? Can anybody see?
----------------No one &#039;Under the shadow of our steeple&#039; stopped to help her before she
                went down.

#2. 
If judgement looms under every steeple
If lofty glances from lofty people
Can&#039;t see past her scarlet letter
And we never even met her
----------------After she went down, no one loved her enough to help her. 
                Jesus would save her life, and tell her, &quot;Go and sin no more.&quot; 
                Remember, those where Jesus&#039; words, not mine.

Mimo, good to make your aquaintance. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mimo,<br />
A couple of things.<br />
#1. Just where did I say who goes to heaven and who not???? Please show me that? </p>
<p>#2. You wrote: I donâ€™t need to compromise, but donâ€™t need to fix people either! Unless they ASK for my opinion, help or advice.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;Did you not really read what I wrote? &#8220;We sat down and immediately he went into how he was an alcoholic.&#8221; Do I have to spell it out? </p>
<p>Mimo, you have done what many here do. You don&#8217;t like what you read, so you make assumptions and read into what is written [Oops, myself included].</p>
<p>So, I ask again, where do I say who goes to heaven and who not?<br />
And since it wasn&#8217;t apparent to you by what I wrote about the young man and me sitting down to talk, he wanted my opinion and advice. </p>
<p>I love Casting Crowns. Great concert. &#8220;Does anybody hear her.&#8221; Great song. Just a minute, I am going back and listen to it. Yep, just what I remember. No one helped her see the &#8220;Ways of God.&#8221; Two parts to that song.<br />
#1.<br />
 Does anybody hear her? Can anybody see?<br />
Or does anybody even knows she&#8217;s going down today<br />
Under the shadow of our steeple<br />
With all the lost and lonely people<br />
Searching for the hope that&#8217;s tucked away in you and me<br />
Does anybody hear her? Can anybody see?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-No one &#8216;Under the shadow of our steeple&#8217; stopped to help her before she<br />
                went down.</p>
<p>#2.<br />
If judgement looms under every steeple<br />
If lofty glances from lofty people<br />
Can&#8217;t see past her scarlet letter<br />
And we never even met her<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-After she went down, no one loved her enough to help her.<br />
                Jesus would save her life, and tell her, &#8220;Go and sin no more.&#8221;<br />
                Remember, those where Jesus&#8217; words, not mine.</p>
<p>Mimo, good to make your aquaintance.<br />
fishon</p>
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		<title>By: Mimou</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry was only here now, and there&#039;s much too many comments to read them all through! I know someone probably already said something similar but just want to cast my lot in as well.

fishon,

pretty big to say who goes to heaven and who not. i thought it wasn&#039;t our deeds but His. I&#039;m not saying &quot;everything is ok&quot;, i&#039;m not one of those people, but laying it out like that, I do resent it and don&#039;t think the same way, I don&#039;t think I can say who goes to Heaven and who not. And even if I am of some certain opinion, like David said, I can be it &quot;lightly&quot;. I don&#039;t need to compromise, but don&#039;t need to fix people either! Unless they ASK for my opinion, help or advice. People already often feel bad and guilty already. I think love for that man, whatever you think is the truth, would be something else than bringing judgement on his head. When I&#039;ve been in low points in my life so far, What gets me up is love and help, not judging look. Check out MercyMe&#039;s &quot;Does anybody hear her&quot;
(could be Casting Crowns, I always get them mixed up!!)

all the best :-) 

Mimo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry was only here now, and there&#8217;s much too many comments to read them all through! I know someone probably already said something similar but just want to cast my lot in as well.</p>
<p>fishon,</p>
<p>pretty big to say who goes to heaven and who not. i thought it wasn&#8217;t our deeds but His. I&#8217;m not saying &#8220;everything is ok&#8221;, i&#8217;m not one of those people, but laying it out like that, I do resent it and don&#8217;t think the same way, I don&#8217;t think I can say who goes to Heaven and who not. And even if I am of some certain opinion, like David said, I can be it &#8220;lightly&#8221;. I don&#8217;t need to compromise, but don&#8217;t need to fix people either! Unless they ASK for my opinion, help or advice. People already often feel bad and guilty already. I think love for that man, whatever you think is the truth, would be something else than bringing judgement on his head. When I&#8217;ve been in low points in my life so far, What gets me up is love and help, not judging look. Check out MercyMe&#8217;s &#8220;Does anybody hear her&#8221;<br />
(could be Casting Crowns, I always get them mixed up!!)</p>
<p>all the best <img src='http://www.nakedpastor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Mimo</p>
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