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	<title>Comments on: If You Meet The Truth, Kill It</title>
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	<description>David Hayward is an artist trapped in a pastor&#039;s body, stripping to the essential.</description>
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		<title>By: GC</title>
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		<dc:creator>GC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth is exclusive by definition. 

If a statement is true, it will have to exclude any statements that contradicts it.

Truth  does not depend on belief or faith. It must align with reality.

Belief is a choice based on our faith or trust. It is dependent on the character of the believer &amp; the object of faith. 

A strong belief does not necessary means it that it is true but does demonstrate strong faith &amp;/or a faith object or person that is high reliable.

 Truth needs to be determine and reason out based on reliable evidence

Doing otherwise will lead to self deception &amp; in some cases fatal decisions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth is exclusive by definition. </p>
<p>If a statement is true, it will have to exclude any statements that contradicts it.</p>
<p>Truth  does not depend on belief or faith. It must align with reality.</p>
<p>Belief is a choice based on our faith or trust. It is dependent on the character of the believer &amp; the object of faith. </p>
<p>A strong belief does not necessary means it that it is true but does demonstrate strong faith &amp;/or a faith object or person that is high reliable.</p>
<p> Truth needs to be determine and reason out based on reliable evidence</p>
<p>Doing otherwise will lead to self deception &amp; in some cases fatal decisions</p>
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		<title>By: fishon</title>
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		<dc:creator>fishon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jonbirch,
Good morning. I was out in the Wheat fields all day, yesterday, so couldn&#039;t write back as quick as I said I would. 

Your last sentence to me makes me laugh. You said: &quot;...i just wonder whether you could maybe throw some light on what the score is?).&quot; Ah, jon, I CAN&#039;T throw much light on anything. I am just a lonely, small-time pastor out in the middle of wheat fields with very little education and lots of opinions that I firmly believe are right. Jon, I am NOT going to be able to give much light. But I will try and answer your questions.

QUESTION #1--What do you mean by truth?

ANSWER--Back to the &quot;nakedpastor&quot; article--He is talking about Packaging and the contents of the pack--and the subject, as best I can tell is the Bible--with packaging as secondary. So, the truth I am talking about is &quot;biblical truth[s].&quot; Packageing [methodology] of biblical truth will ALWAYS change--but Bible truths NEVER change. Now man may try and move the truth, and societies may embrace the moved truth, but that doesn&#039;t change the truth.  

EXAMPLE: Ah, one that raises hackels these days. Jesus said, &quot;I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.&quot;  Now, either that is TRUE or it is not. Jesus gave no alternative. Now men who know more than God [sarcasm] decide they don&#039;t like that saying, and it doesn&#039;t fit in their thinking, so off they go and write books and develope a following of other people who don&#039;t like the truth of what Jesus said. In fact, they can convince the majority of the people they are right, but the truth [biblical] is not up for majority vote. 

I once knew of a girl on LSD who was sure that she could fly. And so she made the attempt off a waterfall from about 100 ft. up. She was told she could not do it and live. She didn&#039;t. The truth involved there was gravity, missing the water and flying into bolders. 

The truth involved with John 14:6 involves the honesty of Jesus. Either He is telling THE TRUTH or a lie--again, he gave no alternatives. I believe He meant what He said, and that He is who He says He is. 

Like that girl who was wrong and could not fly--those who decide that Jesus&#039; words are not true--HAD BETTER BE RIGHT!

Listen, I know I don&#039;t write well, and may not have expressed in a way you can understand--not necessarily agree with, so I won&#039;t write any more because I may be wasting your&#039;s and my time. However, if you want me to continue, let me know and I will. 

By the way, I will not be responding to anyone else about what I wrote because that only turns into a messing debate.
MAKE IT A GREAT DAY.
fishon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jonbirch,<br />
Good morning. I was out in the Wheat fields all day, yesterday, so couldn&#8217;t write back as quick as I said I would. </p>
<p>Your last sentence to me makes me laugh. You said: &#8220;&#8230;i just wonder whether you could maybe throw some light on what the score is?).&#8221; Ah, jon, I CAN&#8217;T throw much light on anything. I am just a lonely, small-time pastor out in the middle of wheat fields with very little education and lots of opinions that I firmly believe are right. Jon, I am NOT going to be able to give much light. But I will try and answer your questions.</p>
<p>QUESTION #1&#8211;What do you mean by truth?</p>
<p>ANSWER&#8211;Back to the &#8220;nakedpastor&#8221; article&#8211;He is talking about Packaging and the contents of the pack&#8211;and the subject, as best I can tell is the Bible&#8211;with packaging as secondary. So, the truth I am talking about is &#8220;biblical truth[s].&#8221; Packageing [methodology] of biblical truth will ALWAYS change&#8211;but Bible truths NEVER change. Now man may try and move the truth, and societies may embrace the moved truth, but that doesn&#8217;t change the truth.  </p>
<p>EXAMPLE: Ah, one that raises hackels these days. Jesus said, &#8220;I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.&#8221;  Now, either that is TRUE or it is not. Jesus gave no alternative. Now men who know more than God [sarcasm] decide they don&#8217;t like that saying, and it doesn&#8217;t fit in their thinking, so off they go and write books and develope a following of other people who don&#8217;t like the truth of what Jesus said. In fact, they can convince the majority of the people they are right, but the truth [biblical] is not up for majority vote. </p>
<p>I once knew of a girl on LSD who was sure that she could fly. And so she made the attempt off a waterfall from about 100 ft. up. She was told she could not do it and live. She didn&#8217;t. The truth involved there was gravity, missing the water and flying into bolders. </p>
<p>The truth involved with John 14:6 involves the honesty of Jesus. Either He is telling THE TRUTH or a lie&#8211;again, he gave no alternatives. I believe He meant what He said, and that He is who He says He is. </p>
<p>Like that girl who was wrong and could not fly&#8211;those who decide that Jesus&#8217; words are not true&#8211;HAD BETTER BE RIGHT!</p>
<p>Listen, I know I don&#8217;t write well, and may not have expressed in a way you can understand&#8211;not necessarily agree with, so I won&#8217;t write any more because I may be wasting your&#8217;s and my time. However, if you want me to continue, let me know and I will. </p>
<p>By the way, I will not be responding to anyone else about what I wrote because that only turns into a messing debate.<br />
MAKE IT A GREAT DAY.<br />
fishon</p>
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		<title>By: Dena G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dena G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 03:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ fishon--To answer your questions, I&#039;m from a fundamentalist background myself.  I spent the first 30 or so years of my life not only believing I had most of the answers but also actively condemning those whose lifestyles/answers didn&#039;t line up with mine...and I really only &quot;loved&quot; those who looked like me--no grace for anyone else.  If they didn&#039;t act like me (perfect, that is...), they were wrong.  And worthy of God&#039;s wrath.  I spent a lot of time lashing out at people with my favorite weapon--Scripture that fit the occasion/sin.

Then my &quot;perfect&quot; little life fell apart--all the things for which I had condemned &quot;those other people out there&quot; (addictions, affairs, divorce, abortion, homosexuality--the so-called &quot;biggies&quot; of the sin world) suddenly became a part of my world, but it wasn&#039;t &quot;those people out there&quot; anymore.  I was one of them now.

When it became that personal, I latched onto God&#039;s grace and mercy...more accurately, I collapsed and fell into it. And I began to learn what it means to &quot;speak the truth in love&quot;.  That&#039;s it in a nutshell, I guess.

Hope that answered your question--thanks for offering me a &quot;safe&quot; place to answer...I&#039;m not opposed to debate, but I&#039;d prefer to not do it here. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ fishon&#8211;To answer your questions, I&#8217;m from a fundamentalist background myself.  I spent the first 30 or so years of my life not only believing I had most of the answers but also actively condemning those whose lifestyles/answers didn&#8217;t line up with mine&#8230;and I really only &#8220;loved&#8221; those who looked like me&#8211;no grace for anyone else.  If they didn&#8217;t act like me (perfect, that is&#8230;), they were wrong.  And worthy of God&#8217;s wrath.  I spent a lot of time lashing out at people with my favorite weapon&#8211;Scripture that fit the occasion/sin.</p>
<p>Then my &#8220;perfect&#8221; little life fell apart&#8211;all the things for which I had condemned &#8220;those other people out there&#8221; (addictions, affairs, divorce, abortion, homosexuality&#8211;the so-called &#8220;biggies&#8221; of the sin world) suddenly became a part of my world, but it wasn&#8217;t &#8220;those people out there&#8221; anymore.  I was one of them now.</p>
<p>When it became that personal, I latched onto God&#8217;s grace and mercy&#8230;more accurately, I collapsed and fell into it. And I began to learn what it means to &#8220;speak the truth in love&#8221;.  That&#8217;s it in a nutshell, I guess.</p>
<p>Hope that answered your question&#8211;thanks for offering me a &#8220;safe&#8221; place to answer&#8230;I&#8217;m not opposed to debate, but I&#8217;d prefer to not do it here. <img src='http://www.nakedpastor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jonbirch</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/1312/comment-page-1#comment-15860</link>
		<dc:creator>jonbirch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you dorsey :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you dorsey <img src='http://www.nakedpastor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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