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	<title>Comments on: Living the Definition or Defining the Living</title>
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	<description>David Hayward is a pastor artistically stripping to the essential.</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reminded of Braveheart, I think it was the tagline of the movie:  &quot;All men die, few ever really live!&quot;  Thanks for sharing about defining the life.  As an emerging church planter getting ready to start a new church I appreciate the sentiment and am committed to not become defined by anything other than what God has said about us as a community.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reminded of Braveheart, I think it was the tagline of the movie:  &#8220;All men die, few ever really live!&#8221;  Thanks for sharing about defining the life.  As an emerging church planter getting ready to start a new church I appreciate the sentiment and am committed to not become defined by anything other than what God has said about us as a community.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: WebMonk</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/1269/comment-page-1#comment-14741</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m a bit loose with the idea of &quot;definition&quot; when I think of what defines me and my actions. Definition is probably the wrong word to use when we describe how we guide our lives. &quot;Definition&quot; has the idea of an all-encompassing, exhaustive and complete summary. People and the world are much too complex to abide in a narrow definition.

Perhaps people try to live their lives by a definition, or by a couple definitions. &quot;I am a father and husband,&quot; is something I can use to define and guide everything I do and all that I am. But it is far too narrow to be a good guide. If I stretch it to the point where it can guide everything I am, then it is stretched to the point it is no longer useful.

Most people have quite a few definitions which define and guide, depending on the situation: pastor, friend, father, mother, son, daughter, employee, boss, competitor, etc. But really, these are all secondary and strictly local definitions which are shaped by the primary definition(s) one has for oneself. Christian, athiest, Muslim, Mormon, etc.

Definitions aren&#039;t bad; they&#039;re useful. Trying to live by the wrong one in a situation will cause all sorts of problems, though. Trying to be a wise-pastor-of-a-growing-church all the time is taking a local definition and applying it as a foundational definition of who-I-am.

&quot;I am a Christian,&quot; is a workable definition by which to live ones life because the thing which defines a Christian isn&#039;t a single concept or a list of hard rules. A Christian is defined by a relationship, but not a relationship to an exclusive or narrow area of life. Christ, being God, is Lord of all Creation and of every situation, and a relationship with Christ impacts everything. When the foundational definition is right, then all the others will flow from it, and it will guide you to properly being a father, mother, pastor-of-50, pastor-of-5000, friend, president, or slave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m a bit loose with the idea of &#8220;definition&#8221; when I think of what defines me and my actions. Definition is probably the wrong word to use when we describe how we guide our lives. &#8220;Definition&#8221; has the idea of an all-encompassing, exhaustive and complete summary. People and the world are much too complex to abide in a narrow definition.</p>
<p>Perhaps people try to live their lives by a definition, or by a couple definitions. &#8220;I am a father and husband,&#8221; is something I can use to define and guide everything I do and all that I am. But it is far too narrow to be a good guide. If I stretch it to the point where it can guide everything I am, then it is stretched to the point it is no longer useful.</p>
<p>Most people have quite a few definitions which define and guide, depending on the situation: pastor, friend, father, mother, son, daughter, employee, boss, competitor, etc. But really, these are all secondary and strictly local definitions which are shaped by the primary definition(s) one has for oneself. Christian, athiest, Muslim, Mormon, etc.</p>
<p>Definitions aren&#8217;t bad; they&#8217;re useful. Trying to live by the wrong one in a situation will cause all sorts of problems, though. Trying to be a wise-pastor-of-a-growing-church all the time is taking a local definition and applying it as a foundational definition of who-I-am.</p>
<p>&#8220;I am a Christian,&#8221; is a workable definition by which to live ones life because the thing which defines a Christian isn&#8217;t a single concept or a list of hard rules. A Christian is defined by a relationship, but not a relationship to an exclusive or narrow area of life. Christ, being God, is Lord of all Creation and of every situation, and a relationship with Christ impacts everything. When the foundational definition is right, then all the others will flow from it, and it will guide you to properly being a father, mother, pastor-of-50, pastor-of-5000, friend, president, or slave.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/1269/comment-page-1#comment-14723</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen Grace! I like the idea of noun and verb as to define us and also who we are in Christ. I would also stretch that to say that our role in the body of Christ is also a verb. Jesus is the Pastor [noun] but He may choose to use us to pastor [verb] to His Body. I think when we define ourselves as being a noun than we&#039;re putting ourselves in His position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen Grace! I like the idea of noun and verb as to define us and also who we are in Christ. I would also stretch that to say that our role in the body of Christ is also a verb. Jesus is the Pastor [noun] but He may choose to use us to pastor [verb] to His Body. I think when we define ourselves as being a noun than we&#8217;re putting ourselves in His position.</p>
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		<title>By: grace</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/1269/comment-page-1#comment-14721</link>
		<dc:creator>grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we all define ourselves?  Possibly.  However, lately I define myself according to my relationships, not as a noun really, but more of a verb.  Instead of thinking I am &quot;a Christian&quot; (noun), I think of myself as relating to (verb) the Father/Son/Holy Spirit.  The same is true of my relationships as wife, mother, and friend.  It is especially true of how I think of church and community at this time.  I define my church community relationally rather than organizationally.  Rather than looking for a church (defined by place), I look for relational circumstances where church is occurring.  I&#039;m not sure if that makes sense to anyone else, but that&#039;s how I see it today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we all define ourselves?  Possibly.  However, lately I define myself according to my relationships, not as a noun really, but more of a verb.  Instead of thinking I am &#8220;a Christian&#8221; (noun), I think of myself as relating to (verb) the Father/Son/Holy Spirit.  The same is true of my relationships as wife, mother, and friend.  It is especially true of how I think of church and community at this time.  I define my church community relationally rather than organizationally.  Rather than looking for a church (defined by place), I look for relational circumstances where church is occurring.  I&#8217;m not sure if that makes sense to anyone else, but that&#8217;s how I see it today.</p>
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