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	<title>Comments on: Hellsong Worship</title>
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	<description>David Hayward is a pastor artistically stripping to the essential.</description>
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		<title>By: seÃ±or jefe</title>
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		<dc:creator>seÃ±or jefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 05:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt; Would Jesus condone spending money on a Taylor acoustic guitar over, say, a Yamaha?

&lt;i&gt;Wouldnâ€™t it be better to take the difference and give it to the poor?&lt;/i&gt; 

I wonder what Jesus would say about that suggestionâ€¦ &lt;/b&gt;

Um... Wasn&#039;t it Judas who made that very same statement in scripture, just after the woman poured the expensive oil all over Jesus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> Would Jesus condone spending money on a Taylor acoustic guitar over, say, a Yamaha?</p>
<p><i>Wouldnâ€™t it be better to take the difference and give it to the poor?</i> </p>
<p>I wonder what Jesus would say about that suggestionâ€¦ </b></p>
<p>Um&#8230; Wasn&#8217;t it Judas who made that very same statement in scripture, just after the woman poured the expensive oil all over Jesus?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Hallewell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Hallewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 19:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting ... I know that U2 claim they are worshipping God when they perform live - and on 3 occasions I think my experience would affirm that - so why not hillsong - well maybe. If our whole lives are our worship of God, everything we do, artistic or otherwise make a statement about the degree that &#039;God is worth it&#039; - it&#039;s all done before him whether we are intentional about it or not. It&#039;s wrong for me to judge the hearts of people bringing different forms of worship, but I think we can critique the impact of certain forms of worship, the things that it can communicate. If I in all sincerity, and in the spirit of the artist decided to dance naked through our town centre (being a truly naked pastor) to worship God (because He&#039;s worth it!) then I think the police might have something to say about it ... you could critique it even if you couldn&#039;t know for sure what was in my heart.

This is all somewhat off the topic of money implied in the original video ... I&#039;m leaving this debate behind now. Good points, well made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting &#8230; I know that U2 claim they are worshipping God when they perform live &#8211; and on 3 occasions I think my experience would affirm that &#8211; so why not hillsong &#8211; well maybe. If our whole lives are our worship of God, everything we do, artistic or otherwise make a statement about the degree that &#8216;God is worth it&#8217; &#8211; it&#8217;s all done before him whether we are intentional about it or not. It&#8217;s wrong for me to judge the hearts of people bringing different forms of worship, but I think we can critique the impact of certain forms of worship, the things that it can communicate. If I in all sincerity, and in the spirit of the artist decided to dance naked through our town centre (being a truly naked pastor) to worship God (because He&#8217;s worth it!) then I think the police might have something to say about it &#8230; you could critique it even if you couldn&#8217;t know for sure what was in my heart.</p>
<p>This is all somewhat off the topic of money implied in the original video &#8230; I&#8217;m leaving this debate behind now. Good points, well made.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 13:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon Hallewell,

That was a good video.  I don&#039;t think I disagree with McLaren.  However, it&#039;s a leap to say that if a certain &quot;worship company&quot; is marketing CDs, they are marketing God.  He looks at art as expression of worship.  I agree completely.  So then why not smoke machines and racks of lights?  If it&#039;s &quot;big&quot; it&#039;s not &quot;legitimate art&quot;?

I think when it comes to misconceptions about what is &quot;real worship&quot; and what is &quot;marketing&quot; I think we have to be careful.  I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s the touring worship band&#039;s place to teach the difference (although they certainly have a certain platform to do so).  I think that teaching is found in the local church.

True worship isn&#039;t about show, or chills, or even songs.  But the &quot;show&quot; can be a legitimate expression of worship.  The problem arises when people go to the worship concert and evaluate the &quot;worship experience&quot; by the &quot;show criteria.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon Hallewell,</p>
<p>That was a good video.  I don&#8217;t think I disagree with McLaren.  However, it&#8217;s a leap to say that if a certain &#8220;worship company&#8221; is marketing CDs, they are marketing God.  He looks at art as expression of worship.  I agree completely.  So then why not smoke machines and racks of lights?  If it&#8217;s &#8220;big&#8221; it&#8217;s not &#8220;legitimate art&#8221;?</p>
<p>I think when it comes to misconceptions about what is &#8220;real worship&#8221; and what is &#8220;marketing&#8221; I think we have to be careful.  I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s the touring worship band&#8217;s place to teach the difference (although they certainly have a certain platform to do so).  I think that teaching is found in the local church.</p>
<p>True worship isn&#8217;t about show, or chills, or even songs.  But the &#8220;show&#8221; can be a legitimate expression of worship.  The problem arises when people go to the worship concert and evaluate the &#8220;worship experience&#8221; by the &#8220;show criteria.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Hallewell</title>
		<link>http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/1066/comment-page-1#comment-9663</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Hallewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 08:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Fred - the answer is : He&#039;d buy a Lowden like mine! and give sacraficially to the poor! :D whilst we&#039;re on &#039;worship&#039; - this video from Brian McLaren is interesting:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.emergentvillage.com/weblog/brian-mclaren-on-the-worship-industry&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.emergentvillage.com/weblog/brian-mclaren-on-the-worship-industry&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Fred &#8211; the answer is : He&#8217;d buy a Lowden like mine! and give sacraficially to the poor! <img src='http://www.nakedpastor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  whilst we&#8217;re on &#8216;worship&#8217; &#8211; this video from Brian McLaren is interesting:<br />
<a href="http://www.emergentvillage.com/weblog/brian-mclaren-on-the-worship-industry" rel="nofollow">http://www.emergentvillage.com/weblog/brian-mclaren-on-the-worship-industry</a></p>
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