I’ve always liked this cartoon. Apparently many other people do too. Many prints have gone around the world.
You too can own a print of this cartoon!
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My name is David Hayward, and I am the nakedpastor. I am a graffiti artist on the walls of religion.
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That is a great cartoon.
I’ve said this here before, but I’ll say it again…David’s prints look even better (they come to life) when you are able to hold it in your hands or hang it (them) on the wall.
I love the ones we bought.
Killing and Suicide being equal to “Love” isn’t an idea that makes sense to a huge part of the world. But oddly enough it seems to make sense to millions of others.
Love indeed!!
Beautiful David.
Sabio –
The idea of dying for love isn’t alien to non-Christians – self-sacrificing love and/or matrydom is a near universal concept.
Christine –
Oh, you are absolutely right. I didn’t think I had to spell it all out. When that sacrifice is necessary and there is no other means to avoid a far worse outcome, it can be an act of love or bravery.
It is hard to understand in absolute necessity for something like this from a guy who writes the rules, apparently.
I am an ex-Christian, and can probably anticipate your answers, of course. And I thought it once made sense too. Guess I am blind now.
I LOVE this! Is it okay to pin it on Pinterest? I always like to ask when a blogger doesn’t have a pinterest button. Thanks!
pin it! i’m on pinterest!
@Sabio – Just responding to the idea of killing and suicide (in general) being equal to love not making sense to a huge part of the world – which is what I got from what you said.
On whether god’s suicide or killing specifically being related to love makes intuitive sense to many people is another question. You would have to look at how many theologies have killings or suicides that could have been prevented by the divine powers of those involved. That’s beyond my range of knowledge on the subject.
Dying on the cross is not an act of love. Dying on the cross is an act of hated by those who are threatened when we love as God wants us to love.
Another reason “Jesus Dying on a Cross” does not seem like “love”:
Reading Mark’s story of Jesus:
If Jesus was a god,
And, Jesus knew he would certainly rise from the dead in only 3 days,
And, Jesus felt he would save the WHOLE world by this
THEN, he seemed pretty cowardly about it.
Heros who are normal day people, unsure if there is any life after death, have been known to rush into situations of almost certain death to save only a few other people (not the whole world) with much more bravery than Jesus did. And apparently Jesus was a 100% certain he would not remain dead, and apparently he knew he was saving billions of people. Yet he cried and tried to resist and asked to get out of it. Seems like reluctant cowardice to me, not love. He was just doing what Daddy told him to do. [or at least that is how it seems if the various theologies of most Christians are true].
Sabio,
Your commment might be logical if–IF–Jesus lived exclusively in His head, i.e., if He were “Mr. Spock-type-Vulcan.” But He was not. He lived in His heart as much as in His head, that is to say, He lived the full range of human life, intellectual and emotional, as well as spiritual. It might also be argued that as human, He did not relish the coming of pain–the only people who do are those with severe mental or emotional problems. And whether you understand Jesus’ last words on the cross, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” as a reality that God the Father did indeed forsake Him in that terrible moment or as His perception that God did based on blinding pain, either is sufficient reason for Him not to welcome the ordeal.
John Fariss
@ John Fariss
The other brave people who have died for the love of others also lived in their hearts as well as much as in their heads — as the full range of human life — and yet met their sacrifice with much more bravery knowing they were only saving a few than Jesus did knowing he was supposedly doing some divine magic to save all of humanity.
Mind you, not all Christians see Jesus through this theological coloring, but the vast majority do.
Interesting, Sabio. Thanks for the follow-up.